Wed 10 Sep 2008
How low will Republicans go?
Posted by Scott under John McCain , Politics , Sarah Palin , Scott's Posts<rant>
I have voted Republican my entire life. I will admit, much to my shame, that I even voted for Bush twice.
Today I say, Hell will freeze over before I will vote for John McCain and Sarah Palin. Up until this morning, although I definitely have never stopped leaning Obama, I had been stirred somewhat by the Palin nomination since I have a child with Down Syndrome. That was until this morning. HERE is a new ad by John McCain. It says:
Script For “Education” (TV :30)
ANNCR: Education Week says Obama “hasn’t made a significant mark on education”.
That he’s “elusive” on accountability.
A “staunch defender of the existing public school monopoly”.
Obama’s one accomplishment?
Legislation to teach “comprehensive sex education” to kindergartners.
Learning about sex before learning to read?
Barack Obama.
Wrong on education. Wrong for your family.
Just so you get the facts straight, Obama supported, but did not sponsor, a comprehensive and scientifically accurate K-12 sex education legislation in Illinois that among other things would have taught kindergarteners about inappropriate touching, with a sole purpose of protecting young children from molesters. Parents would have been able to opt out of that instruction if they so wished. Now, I say “would have” because the legislation, in fact, did not even pass out of committee. And this ad calls it his “one accomplishment”.
My brother Steve, has repeatedly made the point on this blog that politicians lie. I agree its their native language. Especially John McCain, master of the flip-flop.But this ad, approved by the man himself, is insidious. It’s the kind of thing that he promised he would never do.
When, quite by accident, I saw Obama speak at the Democratic convention in 2004, he said
Yet even as we speak, there are those who are preparing to divide us, the spin masters and negative ad peddlers who embrace the politics of anything goes. Well, I say to them tonight, there’s not a liberal America and a conservative America — there’s the United States of America. There’s not a black America and white America and Latino America and Asian America; there’s the United States of America. The pundits like to slice-and-dice our country into Red States and Blue States; Red States for Republicans, Blue States for Democrats. But I’ve got news for them, too. We worship an awesome God in the Blue States, and we don’t like federal agents poking around our libraries in the Red States. We coach Little League in the Blue States and have gay friends in the Red States. There are patriots who opposed the war in Iraq and patriots who supported it. We are one people, all of us pledging allegiance to the stars and stripes, all of us defending the United States of America.
In the end, that’s what this election is about. Do we participate in a politics of cynicism or a politics of hope?
That day I embraced a politics of hope. I actually envisioned a leadership and a politics that believed in justice. One that could actually cause us to rise above the lying and smearing and the hate-filled anything goes as long as we win approach to campaigns. This spring, I actually had hope that John McCain really was a maverick in how he would run his campaign, especially since he was a victim of these kinds of lies and smears of the cynical Bush / Rove campaign in the 2000 primary. But as this campaign has progressed, I have come to realize that McCain and the Republicans really will do anything to win. They will tell bald-faced lies to the nation and do it while smiling and then DARE the press to call them on it. Sarah Palin the anti-earmark reformer? Sarah Palin was opposed to the bridge to nowhere. WTH? Those are just lies. Not the garden variety kind of lies. Lies on Steroids. And during this campaign, whenever the press has asked McCain hard questions, like about his 7 houses, or did he properly vet Sarah Palin, his answer, or that of his evil minions, is to tell us, to remind us, that he once was a POW. John McCain, we got your message loud and clear. Now tell me something that actually matters. Just answer the darn question will you.
Yesterday the Secretary of State of Mississippi released the copy of the ballots for the general election. They put an important Senate election where the democrat is presenting a significant challenge for Trent Lott’s old seat AT THE BOTTOM OF THE BALLOT!!! In direct violation of a very clear MS law. I’ve come to the conclusion that, in fact, Republicans will do anything to win, and that means fundamentally that they don’t care about our Republic, that they will crap on the constitution as long as its principals get in the way of winning. I refuse to vote for the party that would rather win political points even if it gets them Chester the Molester’s vote. I’m voting for the ticket that hasn’t completely abandoned honor, truth and the constitution. If it turns out that the people aren’t with me on this, then Costa Rica isn’t looking too bad right now.
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September 10th, 2008 at 10:45 am
Scott…casual reader here…I agree with your post in general but have to take issue with the implication that this is somehow a Republican problem. It’s an American politician problem. And until the people wake up to the fact that both parties have long since abandoned them in favor of winning at all costs, it will only get worse. Obama’s politics of hope is brilliant. Brilliant because it calls for something that he himself will only mimic for as long as he can. Place your “hope” in either party and you will be disappointed. Two-party politics has always been a bad idea. It’s just taken longer than George Washington thought it would to run its course.
September 10th, 2008 at 11:06 am
Matt,
Thanks for the comment. Right now, I have to say that I dopn’t see this kind of politics on the Obama / democratic side. I am not saying its not there. It may be there and it may be 10 times worse than the republicans, but I don’t see it. So far I think Obama has run a really respectful campaign and has the higher moral ground. I may be really blind, because I don’t see otherwise.
Scott
September 10th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
Scott,
This really is a blind spot for you. Obama’s camp is absolutely guilty of the same kind of smearing and lying. “Know one is as blind as those that will not see.”
On the flip-flop issue. Yes McCain has flip flopped. No, he does not stand on principle. But I do think that Obama is more vulnerable on the issue because he has been so brazen so many times about espousing a position to a particular audience and then, literally days later, reversing course when he either catches heat for it or when the political need for the moment has passed. He has done this on trade, on education, many many times on tax policy, etc.
Lastly, I hope the GOP continues to Obama on Education Policy. Because, while hating the nature of the deceitful political rhetoric that you delineate, Obama is flatly and unequivocally wrong on Education Policy. His education policy is contrary to freedom and liberty, contrary to common sense, ignores the empirical data and will continue to trap the most vulnerable in the worst schools. I am even tempted to call it immoral and unpatriotic.
Steve
September 10th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
BTW, I hear the Beans and Rice with Plantains are excellent in Costa Rica.
September 10th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=7443
i wanted to see and compare ads - rep vs dems
here is a bunch of ads from the dems
the negative ads seem to be coming from both sides
September 10th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
another round of ads -here is one responding to the McCain ad
http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/whatkind_ad/
http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/nomaverick_ad/
this is one reason i don’t rely on tv ads to inform me about a candidate -
Town Hall Meeting format with both candidates as requested by McCain would be a good start!
I despise how the political campaign spin machines use ads also -
i would rather us listen to the men themselves - rather than the voiceover slide shows. we need to hear these men communicating without sound bites and slogans - lipstick included -
Thanks guys for the blog - keep up the discussion -
Scott I for one can agree that a little rant every now and then - helps.
Maybe sometime in the next two months we can actually get to the facts !
I had enough sound bits and cutesy slogans -from the conventions -
Lets have some substance - !
b
September 10th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
Steve,
It may be a blind spot for me. Show me ONE AD that is as purely a lie as this one is from the Obama campaign. This ad is pure evil. I don’t think you’ll find its equivalent on the Obama side.
As for his Education Policy. YAWN. At this point I don’t care. I don’t want evil people in the white house.
http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/09/apology_not_accepted.html
Link that evil Obama ad when you find it.
Scott
September 10th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Buddy
There are negative ads - and there are smears and lies. Show me a pure smear from the dem side approved by Barack Obama.
Scott
September 10th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
Scott,
Please point out the lie in the ad you quoted. You basically prove that he did, indeed, support a program that could be called “comprehensive sex education.” Where is the lie. Spin, yet. Distortion, yes. Lie. I am not convinced.
Basically, only with the information you provide…it is possible to believe that ad is completely truthful.
Seth
September 10th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Hmm,
They called it his “one accomplishment”. Thats a lie in two senses. It wasn’t an accomplishment at all since the legislation wasn’t his and wasn’t passed. Plus I have no doubt he has some educational accomplishments as a legislator.
It said he wanted to teach sex to kindergartners before reading. Thats a lie too. This legislations would’ve taught kindergartners about appropriate and inappropriate touch to protect them from predators, like the cub scouts and many other institutions that work with small children do. Do you consider that to be teaching them “about sex”? Do you thinks its a bad idea?
Yes, it is possible to believe this ad is completely truthful. That’s called believing a lie. Obviously, if they didn’t think people would believe this lie they wouldn’t say it now would they.
Scott
September 10th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
Scott,
There are lots of sights documenting fabrications and lies coming out of the official Obama campaign about McCain and other things. Google it.
Steve
September 10th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
For the record, I agree that the ad is a lie. I just don’t believe Obama is any better.
Steve
September 10th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
I don’t doubt that the teaching K% kids about body parts WAS part of a larger “comprehensive sex education” policy that ran K5 - 12. I admit that the “learning about sex before learning to read” is a distortion. But I think the overall message of the commercial is absolutely correct.
HERE IS A BREAKDOWN OF THE COMMERCIAL -
Education Week says Obama “hasn’t made a significant mark on education”.
I won’t fact check this quote. I assume that this is a real quote from a real professional journal.
That he’s “elusive” on accountability.
This is a true statement. The Democrats are completely beholden to the Education monopoly. I heard that 10% of the attendees of the DNC were teachers. He has flip-flopped and been vague and ambiguous about making it easier to fire bad teachers.
A “staunch defender of the existing public school monopoly”.
TRUE
Obama’s one accomplishment?
What has he accomplished?
Legislation to teach “comprehensive sex education” to kindergartners.
Scott admits that he did sponsor a bill that does this.
Learning about sex before learning to read?
Remember…this is the punchline and it is distortive but it could also be called hyperbole. It could have accurately written…”learning about comprehensive sex education before learning to read.” That is closer to the truth but not as catchy.
Obama IS wrong on education and is wrong for families when it comes to education. More on that later in my next full post.
Seth
September 10th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
Scott,
Granted its a rant but the tone of this post and, in particular, the comments betray that same kind of Cult of Personality issues I addressed in my open letter to you. Lets grant that both side really, really want to win the election and are willing to engage in unprincipled politicking to achieve that end. I prefer to talk about their ideas. So you can YAWN about Ed policy or other policy prescriptions if you like. Your boredom just betrays a mindless devotion to Obama fueled by an irrational hatred of Republicans. Have at it.
Steve
September 10th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Pardon…not sponsor…rather supported.
Sorry about that.
Seth
September 10th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
Did anyone else have to reread Scott’s sentence:
“This legislations would’ve taught kindergartners about appropriate and inappropriate touch to protect them from predators, like the cub scouts…”
:^)
September 11th, 2008 at 9:46 am
McClatchy’s take on this. It’s a smear.
Do you guys believe that there are rules for campaigns?
If so, do you really believe that both sides are equally wrong in the way the run their campaigns?
What do people mean by Rovian tactics?
Scott